Why do people still think Michael Jackson was guilty?

To he honest I am much more angry at the parents of these kids, they sold them out in exchange for lavish gifts when they should have been protecting them. It angers me as a father. Michael Jackson was an opiate drug addict and should have been nowhere near children, especially those that were not his ‘own’.

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Jackson himself admitted sharing a bed with children. He didn't just sleep on the floor as some fans state. Listen to him speak at 1:04 in this video.

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His marriage to Debbie Rowe was a sham, she said they never had any physical relationship in the 3 years they were ‘together’. He was not into the beautiful Brooke Shields or Tatiana Thumbtzen who were available to him in the 80s but was more infatuated with Emmanuel Lewis and James Safechuck. This looks like a man who is not interested women.

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Jordan Chandler was paid off $23 million in 1994, Jason Francia was paid off $2.4 million in 1994. Extremely large amounts of money for 1994, especially Chandler.

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It's highly likely he was guilty.

The FBI did not investigate him for 13 years. They investigated threats AGAINST him for 13 years between 1992-2005, they helped the LAPD and Santa Barbara PD in 1993 and 2003.

It's a shame as I would have liked to have shared MJ’s music and the Moonwalker movie with my own kids but I can't. I still listen to his music now and then but only when my wife and son are not around.

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None of these people have ever taken back their allegations. Not a single one.

This to me is inexcusable behaviour. A 30-45 year old man should never be sharing a bed with little kids that are not related to him. You can perform mental gymnastics to justify it but not me.

There are too many coincidences.

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As a youngster I defended him in 1993 and 2005 but as an older more rational thinking man with children of my own I no longer can. I used to be that fan who performed mental gymnastics to justify his inappropriate behaviour, I used to be livid at the likes of Martin Bashir who I now think could have grilled Jackson further on his bed sharing with little children.

Many fans will say they were just money grabbers but Jordan's mother June did testify against Jackson 11 years later in 2005 as did Jason Francia. They already had their payout money from 1994 but wanted to see Jackson prosecuted and sent to jail for harming children in 2005. Jordan Chandler's dad Evan killed himself in 2009 due to suffering from the painful Gaucher's disease, nothing to do with Jackson's death.

He also wrote the majority of his hit songs and made clever business decisions like buying The Beatles song rights from under the nose of his good friend Paul McCartney. He carefully planned his ascent to the top of the music world. These actions show that he was a highly intelligent man not a naive innocent fool that was taken advantage of easily or that he had the mind of an 8 year old child.

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He says himself that he shared a bed with many children.

Now some people like Macauley Culkin have defended Jackson but a serial killer does not kill every single person he is alone with. As his publicist Bob Jones stated Jackson had a sinister gift for picking these boys out, whose parents could be bought in exchange for lavish gifts.

During this period in 1993 she named James Safechuck as one of his victims, 26 years before Leaving Neverland.

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His sister Latoya said she believed he was guilty in 1993. Now people will say that she was forced to lie by her abusive husband Jack Gordon. I think Jack Gordon forced her to tell the truth. Listen to it yourself and make your own mind up. She is torn between the love of her brother and feeling sadness for the victims. It's not just a full on attack on Michael.

I don't buy the ‘he was a man-child who had no childhood’ excuse. He had a porn collection, drank alcohol and was a drug addict. Hardly child like or asexual.

He's had 11 people accuse him of inappropriate behaviour when the were children. Jordan Chandler, Jason Francia, Terry George, Gavin Arvizo, James Safechuck, Wade Robson and 5 members of the Cascio family.

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Yes he was found not guilty in 2005 but OJ Simpson was as well and so was R Kelly in 2008 despite there being a sex tape.

Some say that Jackson’s insurance company paid the money but again I've never seen anything that states they paid the full amount.

A book called ‘The Boy A Photographic Essay’ was found in his room during the police raids in 1993. It's legal but on the NAMBLA recommended reading list as it contains naked pictures of boys.

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I’ve been a fan of Michael Jackson’s music since I was 5 years old in 1988. His music played a huge part in my early childhood. I listened to the Thriller, Bad and Dangerous albums on repeat, likewise I watched Moonwalker countless times. But I am not a fan of Michael Jackson the person. I do feel some pity for him as I believe he was abused as a child himself. He is one of the biggest examples of why kids should not be involved in showbiz.